Ok, today I am installing my new EVGA 8800GTS 640MB Superclocked :DI am about to go out and buy an ani-static wristband as a precaution for any mistakes. Basically, Im looking for any tips people can give me as I have never replaced any parts on my comp. I ordered all the parts and had it built by an expert.Any tips from you guys would be great. Maybe some help on using the anti-static band? Advice on drivers, order you do things etc;Please any help would be fantastic. I really want to get this card in today. Thanks in advance.Installing new g.card
Nice card you've just got :)Anyways - the installation is a simple remove and replace - remove the old card, and install in the new one.These are the steps I would take:1. Uninstall old card drivers (even if your previous card is a nVidia one)2. Shut down computer, remove side panel, and attach the anti-wrist band from your wrist to the case.3. Unplug any power connected to the card, and remove the card itself (some AGP/PCI-Ex slots might have a small latch/locking mechanism that you have to pull on before you can remove the card)4. Install the new card, remembering to connect power to it. 5. Replace side panel, remove anti-wrist band, start up computer and reinstall new drivers.Installing new g.card
I've been building upgrading and repairing PC's for some time now and I have never used an antistatic wrist strap, honestly its not really nessisary. Sure there is allways the risk of static discharge but over the four years I've been doing it I've never fried any computer parts. Once your machine is turned off and disconnected from the socket the best way to discharge yourself is tosimply touch the case with both hands.Since your machine was not build by you, have you checked the wattage and the output of the 12V rail on your PSU? This is very important as the 8800 series card needs a fair bit of juice to run.
[QUOTE=''Bond007uk'']I've been building upgrading and repairing PC's for some time now and I have never used an antistatic wrist strap, honestly its not really nessisary. Sure there is allways the risk of static discharge but over the four years I've been doing it I've never fried any computer parts. Once your machine is turned off and disconnected from the socket the best way to discharge yourself is tosimply touch the case with both hands.Since your machine was not build by you, have you checked the wattage and the output of the 12V rail on your PSU? This is very important as the 8800 series card needs a fair bit of juice to run.[/QUOTE]I didn't build the computer myself but I picked out the compenents. I am very confident that my PSU can do the job. It got fantastic reviews and I have heard very good things. It is an SLI compatible PSU so im sure it can run one 8800GTS. Thanks for the feedback guys.I might skip on the anti-static band. If I don't buy the wrist strap, then all I have to do is touch the case before I replace the part? Or do I need one hand on the side of the case at all times?Sorry for the amateurish questions:oops:Im not too hot on building computers. I just pick the components :)
[QUOTE=''maverick_matt''][QUOTE=''Bond007uk''] I've been building upgrading and repairing PC's for some time now and I have never used an antistatic wrist strap, honestly its not really nessisary. Sure there is allways the risk of static discharge but over the four years I've been doing it I've never fried any computer parts. Once your machine is turned off and disconnected from the socket the best way to discharge yourself is tosimply touch the case with both hands.Since your machine was not build by you, have you checked the wattage and the output of the 12V rail on your PSU? This is very important as the 8800 series card needs a fair bit of juice to run.[/QUOTE]Nope, theres no need to keep one hand on the case, jsut touch the case with both hands once, and then thats it, and follow the easy follow steps that were posted above.I didn't build the computer myself but I picked out the compenents. I am very confident that my PSU can do the job. It got fantastic reviews and I have heard very good things. It is an SLI compatible PSU so im sure it can run one 8800GTS. Thanks for the feedback guys.I might skip on the anti-static band. If I don't buy the wrist strap, then all I have to do is touch the case before I replace the part? Or do I need one hand on the side of the case at all times?Sorry for the amateurish questions:oops:Im not too hot on building computers. I just pick the components :)[/QUOTE]
Can anyone tell me what happens if you dont discharge yourself??? Or something like that. Can you fry up your GPU??? WIll it estill work after you fry it???
just take the old out and put the new one in! its pretty simple and I built mine w/o a wrist guard your fine.
PC components are quite tolerant of static these days, anyway your going to have to touch the case to get the side off so don't worry about it. I once dropped my old graphics card on the carpet it still worked fine!If the PSU was designed for SLI then it should work fine too.
Nice psu btw but why upgrade a 7800GTX????
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[QUOTE=''LouieV13'']Nice psu btw but why upgrade a 7800GTX????[/QUOTE]I think he should upgrade because the 8800GTS is very well worth the price it is at. Besides i've started to notice that the 7xxx cards are beginning to show pretty alarming performance decreases ongames that came out and are coming out this year. Not to mention thefact that he will be future-proof because of direct X 10. If youarewilling to wait it out then i guess you could wait for the second generation of dx10 cards nvidia is releasing (G92- GF 9800GTX) which are beinglaunched at the end of theyear.Tbh ikinda regret buying my 8800GTX when it was released because no games could take advantage of it.. but i really loved the high FPS, but even though no game made it fall down to its knees.. it was still an awesome experience.
i never use an anti-static wrist bandits for wimps! /jkanyways i first turn of the computer, then the surge protector or backupthen i unplug all the wiresi remove the side of the caseu may have to deal with watercooling if you have it in your rig, not always thoughi flip down the white latch on the pci-e x16 socketi pull out the six pin connectori unscrew the two screws holding down my cardi slide my card slightly to the left then firmly evenly pull up then wallah!
Really the only thing that you can fry with static is your RAM or your CPU. If you're worried about it, just touch something that's grounded (mine is always my cabinets in the dining room) make sure the thing you're touching is metal (I don't know the physics, it just works) and then take out the card. repeat the earlier process and insert the new card. That should work if you're REALLY freaking out about static. Personally I think that if static could hurt your video card it was probably broken already.P.S. Have Fun with your new card! 8800 Power!
unplug ur pc, open and explore , No need of any BANDS..nothing gets damaged. and u r not gonna die with a static charge. Doing it urself is the best thing to build ur knowledge about computers. just remove ur old card and put the new card in the same position as the previous card was removed.Take pictures with ur camera In case if u forgot to put any wire bak or just to chek on urself .
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
What are the concerns with oc'ing the cpu?
Other than temps, is there anything to keep in mind? Can you go as high as you want just as long as its cool enough, or is there a concern with high clock speeds?I ask because right now i have a core 2 e6600 going at 3.478 GHz and the highest the temp gets is 56C. Whats to say I couldnt go higher? Also, what is it that determines the temps, the clock speed or the voltages? What are the concerns with oc'ing the cpu?
Artifacts... unstablility... BSOD... Keep it at that its high enough jesus! You speed whore :PWhat are the concerns with oc'ing the cpu?
[QUOTE=''LouieV13'']Artifacts... unstablility... BSOD... Keep it at that its high enough jesus! You speed whore :P[/QUOTE]could you please expand on those. Everything has been stable but how would i tell if there was some other issue?(yeah, my speed is fast, thats why im asking about this)
[QUOTE=''StaticFriction''][QUOTE=''LouieV13'']Artifacts... unstablility... BSOD... Keep it at that its high enough jesus! You speed whore :P[/QUOTE]could you please expand on those. Everything has been stable but how would i tell if there was some other issue?(yeah, my speed is fast, thats why im asking about this)[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldnt know I never had or read anything about C2D but I would keep it at that speed
mainly it will decrease your cpu's life span, because its working harder, its wearing faster. also remember that before a cpu is released to the market it undergoes extensive testing, i have a friend that work for intel doing just that, writing programs that check if the cpu is doing logically what it suppose to do. when you overclock the cpu is not working according to the way it should, and it could produce errors, EVEN if you do stress tests and the results come out good. also remember that the cpu might work fine overclocked, but after some time, few months, maybe years, it will wear down and problems will arise. if that happens don't think that just because your cpu worked fine for 7 months overclocked, its not the cause of the problem.
there is a software which u can run after overclocking ur cpu to chek its stability.I cant remember its name. it was something like ( PRIME95) i guess ....search on google for details. leave the software running overnight for better results.
Artifacts... unstablility... BSOD... Keep it at that its high enough jesus! You speed whore :PWhat are the concerns with oc'ing the cpu?
[QUOTE=''LouieV13'']Artifacts... unstablility... BSOD... Keep it at that its high enough jesus! You speed whore :P[/QUOTE]could you please expand on those. Everything has been stable but how would i tell if there was some other issue?(yeah, my speed is fast, thats why im asking about this)
[QUOTE=''StaticFriction''][QUOTE=''LouieV13'']Artifacts... unstablility... BSOD... Keep it at that its high enough jesus! You speed whore :P[/QUOTE]could you please expand on those. Everything has been stable but how would i tell if there was some other issue?(yeah, my speed is fast, thats why im asking about this)[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldnt know I never had or read anything about C2D but I would keep it at that speed
mainly it will decrease your cpu's life span, because its working harder, its wearing faster. also remember that before a cpu is released to the market it undergoes extensive testing, i have a friend that work for intel doing just that, writing programs that check if the cpu is doing logically what it suppose to do. when you overclock the cpu is not working according to the way it should, and it could produce errors, EVEN if you do stress tests and the results come out good. also remember that the cpu might work fine overclocked, but after some time, few months, maybe years, it will wear down and problems will arise. if that happens don't think that just because your cpu worked fine for 7 months overclocked, its not the cause of the problem.
there is a software which u can run after overclocking ur cpu to chek its stability.I cant remember its name. it was something like ( PRIME95) i guess ....search on google for details. leave the software running overnight for better results.
Difference between an ';Operating'; and a ';Data'; hardrive?
Well. On the custom rig site I am ordering from you have to list what operating and data hardrive you want but I don't know the difference. My first guess is that the OS is installed on the Operating hardrive. Can anyone tell me what the deal is here? Also would a computer with Operating and Data Hardrive be pretty much the same as having just 2 Data drives? Thanks in advance guys.Difference between an ';Operating'; and a ';Data'; hardrive?
The operating HDD is the one you boot in to. I guess your data would be on the other one.Difference between an ';Operating'; and a ';Data'; hardrive?
You use some thing like a Raptor to boot off and play games, and use a large but 'slower' one for storing pictures and videos. However The 7200.10 Barracuda isn't far off and sometimes also bets the Raptor, however the differences between te to are so small you wouldn't notice. So save a couple of quid and get a barracuda
Yep, the ''Operating'' HDD is the one the OS will be loaded on, and will be booted to. The ''Data'' HDD is for just what it sounds like its for....data. You can put anything you want on this drive.dermatologist
The operating HDD is the one you boot in to. I guess your data would be on the other one.Difference between an ';Operating'; and a ';Data'; hardrive?
You use some thing like a Raptor to boot off and play games, and use a large but 'slower' one for storing pictures and videos. However The 7200.10 Barracuda isn't far off and sometimes also bets the Raptor, however the differences between te to are so small you wouldn't notice. So save a couple of quid and get a barracuda
Yep, the ''Operating'' HDD is the one the OS will be loaded on, and will be booted to. The ''Data'' HDD is for just what it sounds like its for....data. You can put anything you want on this drive.
Best Oblivion texture mod?
Before you say anything, I asked this question in the pc games forum first, but nobody seems to know the answer. I just got Oblivion and installed Qarl's texture pack III and Natural Environments 2.1.2. They both work fine, and make the game look amazing. But the distance textures still look horrible. Does anyone know of a really good distance texture mod?Best Oblivion texture mod?
If inpc gamessection you didn't find the answer, here no way you will gonna findBest Oblivion texture mod?
Maybe not, but it's worth a try :D
[QUOTE=''-GeordiLaForge-'']Before you say anything, I asked this question in the pc games forum first, but nobody seems to know the answer. I just got Oblivion and installed Qarl's texture pack III and Natural Environments 2.1.2. They both work fine, and make the game look amazing. But the distance textures still look horrible. Does anyone know of a really good distance texture mod?[/QUOTE]No one is going to help you here either. This topic is meant for PC Games Discussion only.
[QUOTE=''TugboatTheGreat''][QUOTE=''-GeordiLaForge-'']Before you say anything, I asked this question in the pc games forum first, but nobody seems to know the answer. I just got Oblivion and installed Qarl's texture pack III and Natural Environments 2.1.2. They both work fine, and make the game look amazing. But the distance textures still look horrible. Does anyone know of a really good distance texture mod?[/QUOTE]No one is going to help you here either. This topic is meant for PC Games Discussion only.[/QUOTE]
Ummm... actually, it's meant for pc hardware discussion. It doesn't matter anyway. I found out which is best ;) ... CaptNKILL's distance texture patch :D
Also get quarls 4k normal maps pack...and your game will chug. or go here http://devnull.devakm.googlepages.com/obliviontextureoverhaul
If inpc gamessection you didn't find the answer, here no way you will gonna findBest Oblivion texture mod?
Maybe not, but it's worth a try :D
[QUOTE=''-GeordiLaForge-'']Before you say anything, I asked this question in the pc games forum first, but nobody seems to know the answer. I just got Oblivion and installed Qarl's texture pack III and Natural Environments 2.1.2. They both work fine, and make the game look amazing. But the distance textures still look horrible. Does anyone know of a really good distance texture mod?[/QUOTE]No one is going to help you here either. This topic is meant for PC Games Discussion only.
[QUOTE=''TugboatTheGreat''][QUOTE=''-GeordiLaForge-'']Before you say anything, I asked this question in the pc games forum first, but nobody seems to know the answer. I just got Oblivion and installed Qarl's texture pack III and Natural Environments 2.1.2. They both work fine, and make the game look amazing. But the distance textures still look horrible. Does anyone know of a really good distance texture mod?[/QUOTE]No one is going to help you here either. This topic is meant for PC Games Discussion only.[/QUOTE]
Ummm... actually, it's meant for pc hardware discussion. It doesn't matter anyway. I found out which is best ;) ... CaptNKILL's distance texture patch :D
Also get quarls 4k normal maps pack...and your game will chug. or go here http://devnull.devakm.googlepages.com/obliviontextureoverhaul
CPU voltages
whats the best way to determine the necesary CPU core and CPU FSB voltages for a clock speed? some people say just turn it down until the computer doesnt work, but there got to be a better way.CPU voltages
You do continuously do stress testing (example: Prime95, Orthos, etc.) until you feel it's stable for a certain amount of time (typically 12 hours or more).CPU voltages
Depends on the CPU and the averages people use for certain clocks, best way to find out is to visit an overclocking forum.
You do continuously do stress testing (example: Prime95, Orthos, etc.) until you feel it's stable for a certain amount of time (typically 12 hours or more).CPU voltages
Depends on the CPU and the averages people use for certain clocks, best way to find out is to visit an overclocking forum.
Athlon 64 +5600 or +6000?
I plan on passing on my AMD +4200 to my brother and on upgrading my processor because the prices are dirt cheap. Right now the 2.8 gig +5600 is going for $150 all over the internet. The 3 gig +6000 is going for $169. It would seem like a better deal to just go all the way and grab the +6000 however, the +5600 only pulls 89 watts while the +6000 pulls 125, meaning more heat. Should I just grab the +5600 hundred and overclock it, knowing that it will be noticably cooler right off the bat? I figure I'll win either way, but I still want to make the best decision. Thanks in advance.Athlon 64 +5600 or +6000?
I'm a lesser wattage type of guy, go for the 5600+ :)It shouldn't be terribly difficult to OC it to 6000+ speed.Athlon 64 +5600 or +6000?
X2 5600 and OC it.
I always recommend OCing.
I'm a lesser wattage type of guy, go for the 5600+ :)It shouldn't be terribly difficult to OC it to 6000+ speed.Athlon 64 +5600 or +6000?
X2 5600 and OC it.
I always recommend OCing.
Vista Vs. XP
only vote if u have tried both operating systems which do u prefer?Vista Vs. XP
Got vista on my new computer for $15 more than a new copy of xp. So far no complaints, everything looks pretty and runs smooth. Currently have XP installed on all of my other computers though (too expensive to upgrade everything). Vista Vs. XP
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well im using xp right now, but im upgrading my pc and will be getting vista. I don't see why I would put xp back on when I will need vista in a year or two anyway.
Vista if you are buying a new computer with a next gen video card, otherwise, I don't suggest it yet.
Vista, games run great, I have no complaints.
XP ftw, but in a year maybe VISTA will overtake, currently Vista has low compatibility and too many specific programs that will only run on vista, if only XP looked exactly like vista but remaining with same layout, VISTA looks soooo nice....yes i tried both and I was considering to stay with Vista until I came across more incompatibility and that was the final straw for me, so I'm staying with XP until things get sorted out.....might I add, I used VISTA Ultimate and I would not buy it, definately not worth paying for, infact I wouldnt pay for any OS! Im happy with XP right now and will remain that way for some time even with my non-paid VISTA Ultimate
wow i thought xp would bbe winning
I use both Vista and XP with Linux on a triple boot.
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Vista if you have at least 1.5gb of ram...
I have vista and none of my games work, and FORGET about freeware games.
Vista is quite nice to use - it looks great, however I don't like how it tries to be way too simplified with the wizards and such - I still want to change settings manually, one annoyance is how the wireless settings are arranged now through the Network Centre. Otherwise, I will most likely dual boot XP and Vista, and if any time, Linux as well.
For some reason I am not having that much problems with vista but I just dont like it, I prefer XP because programs seem to run faster for some reason.
i have vista and xp but i use xp 80% of the time because i'm too lazy to reinstall everything on vista. but i have problem with vista. my vista actually boots up faster than my xp
[QUOTE=''nohnaimer'']i have vista and xp but i use xp 80% of the time because i'm too lazy to reinstall everything on vista. but i have problem with vista. my vista actually boots up faster than my xp[/QUOTE] WOW, your XP boots slower than VISTA, your XP must be pretty screwed up, mine takes 4 loading bars and thats with security programs running as well eg. Kaspersky/Ad-watch/Win Patrol/UnHackMe
I'm totally mixed on this one, I think that XP right now is a much more full OS, there are a couple of annoyances that can get really bad if they matter to you in Vista (not that the same isn't true about XP but to a lesser degree). But at the same time I don't think that you should be paying as much money as they want for a copy of XP at the moment. So if you really need to buy it go get Vista but right now XP is the one you want to use.
XP for me
[QUOTE=''8adk1d_16yo'']WOW, your XP boots slower than VISTA, your XP must be pretty screwed up, mine takes 4 loading bars and thats with security programs running as well eg. Kaspersky/Ad-watch/Win Patrol/UnHackMe[/QUOTE]Vista's always booted up faster than XP on both my laptop and desktop, and I can reassure you that my XP installation wasn't screwed up. Vista just boots quick on a computer that can handle it.
[QUOTE=''imrlybord7'']I have vista and none of my games work, and FORGET about freeware games.[/QUOTE]NONE of your games work. Wow, I have Worms Armageddon installed and that is ancient and it works. All my others work aswell. What games are you trying?
Got vista on my new computer for $15 more than a new copy of xp. So far no complaints, everything looks pretty and runs smooth. Currently have XP installed on all of my other computers though (too expensive to upgrade everything). Vista Vs. XP
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well im using xp right now, but im upgrading my pc and will be getting vista. I don't see why I would put xp back on when I will need vista in a year or two anyway.
Vista if you are buying a new computer with a next gen video card, otherwise, I don't suggest it yet.
Vista, games run great, I have no complaints.
XP ftw, but in a year maybe VISTA will overtake, currently Vista has low compatibility and too many specific programs that will only run on vista, if only XP looked exactly like vista but remaining with same layout, VISTA looks soooo nice....yes i tried both and I was considering to stay with Vista until I came across more incompatibility and that was the final straw for me, so I'm staying with XP until things get sorted out.....might I add, I used VISTA Ultimate and I would not buy it, definately not worth paying for, infact I wouldnt pay for any OS! Im happy with XP right now and will remain that way for some time even with my non-paid VISTA Ultimate
wow i thought xp would bbe winning
I use both Vista and XP with Linux on a triple boot.
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Vista if you have at least 1.5gb of ram...
I have vista and none of my games work, and FORGET about freeware games.
Vista is quite nice to use - it looks great, however I don't like how it tries to be way too simplified with the wizards and such - I still want to change settings manually, one annoyance is how the wireless settings are arranged now through the Network Centre. Otherwise, I will most likely dual boot XP and Vista, and if any time, Linux as well.
For some reason I am not having that much problems with vista but I just dont like it, I prefer XP because programs seem to run faster for some reason.
i have vista and xp but i use xp 80% of the time because i'm too lazy to reinstall everything on vista. but i have problem with vista. my vista actually boots up faster than my xp
[QUOTE=''nohnaimer'']i have vista and xp but i use xp 80% of the time because i'm too lazy to reinstall everything on vista. but i have problem with vista. my vista actually boots up faster than my xp[/QUOTE] WOW, your XP boots slower than VISTA, your XP must be pretty screwed up, mine takes 4 loading bars and thats with security programs running as well eg. Kaspersky/Ad-watch/Win Patrol/UnHackMe
I'm totally mixed on this one, I think that XP right now is a much more full OS, there are a couple of annoyances that can get really bad if they matter to you in Vista (not that the same isn't true about XP but to a lesser degree). But at the same time I don't think that you should be paying as much money as they want for a copy of XP at the moment. So if you really need to buy it go get Vista but right now XP is the one you want to use.
XP for me
[QUOTE=''8adk1d_16yo'']WOW, your XP boots slower than VISTA, your XP must be pretty screwed up, mine takes 4 loading bars and thats with security programs running as well eg. Kaspersky/Ad-watch/Win Patrol/UnHackMe[/QUOTE]Vista's always booted up faster than XP on both my laptop and desktop, and I can reassure you that my XP installation wasn't screwed up. Vista just boots quick on a computer that can handle it.
[QUOTE=''imrlybord7'']I have vista and none of my games work, and FORGET about freeware games.[/QUOTE]NONE of your games work. Wow, I have Worms Armageddon installed and that is ancient and it works. All my others work aswell. What games are you trying?
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