I got this tower that is of no use to me anymore, and I'm interested in getting some cash back for the individual components(i.e. RAM stick, Vid Card etc). Are there any,....lets say, PC Pawn shops, so to speak, where I can do that, or am I S.o.L?What store/shop can I go sell my PC parts?
Ebay is always an option. There areprobably some computer stores that will buy your pc parts, but I don't know of any.What store/shop can I go sell my PC parts?
Try here first: [url]http://www.craigslist.org/[/url]Before going on eBay.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
ntel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor E6700 (2.66GHz) or Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad pro
Need help deciding.ntel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor E6700 (2.66GHz) or Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad pro
Same here, this is being asked across many boards atm.From what I gather everybody has a different opinion , heres a few variations:1) Quad Core is pointless because games wont use it before the TRUE quads are out1 Counter ) Penryn only has 4 more MB L Cache , its not a big increase over Qseries (but overclocks better, uses less watt), TRUE NATIVE doesnt come out until 2009. (Basically not worth the wait)2) EXX50 (2.6+) is better, because higher clock speed will be more important.2 Counter ) The difference between say 2.4 GHZ Quad and 3.0 GHZ is not that big - around 5-6-8-9-10 FPS difference in SINGLE THREADED %26 2-core only , Quad core will be more future proof for those games (which are coming Q4 and 2008) will have more optimization for Quad Cores)3) 2 Core higher clockspeed is better now for CURRENT games (which is true).3 Counter ) But most games now dont even need a Duo Core at all to max (Including STALKER) , Crysis only needs E6600 for Ultra High (Confirmed by Crytek CEO) so why have have higher speed Duo Core, whena Quad Core will already max CURRENT games anyway (But with slightly slower loading times).I dont know, some people thing ''Quad is for bragging rights, all flash no show'' or ''High clocked 2 Cores is just for GHZ whores''.Its all a gamble, personally I'm leaning towards Quad Core, I'm not an Frame-rate or Overclocker junkie, I jsut want some future proof hardware , I dont find Penryn (6 months off) worth the wait, I could get a Q6600 now , leave it at stock or slightly O/C it , and save that future penryn money towards the Nvidia 9800 series which would overall give a much bigger improvement in games.No doubt some people will correct me on this ... I dont mind, I cant predict the future , but logically 4 cores > 2 no matter how you look at it, also 8 MB Cache > 4 MB L Cachentel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor E6700 (2.66GHz) or Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad pro
Thanks for the input.
it depends if you're doing a lot of video and sound editing, photoshoping, endoding, decodingor otherapplication that utilizes quad core to get the task done faster. if you're only doing gaming and nothing else, just gete6600. but then again, the price difference between e6600 and q6600 is not that muchafterJuly.
[QUOTE=''SDxSnOOpZ'']it depends if you're doing a lot of video and sound editing, photoshoping, endoding, decodingor otherapplication that utilizes quad core to get the task done faster. if you're only doing gaming and nothing else, just gete6600. but then again, the price difference between e6600 and q6600 is not that muchafterJuly.[/QUOTE]Indeed, E6600 would definatly be enough for along while, but since there isnt a massive price gap I'm not so sure it would be a wise choice, I mean check this out:![]()
Lost Planet, a System hogging game, which makes some use of the Quad cores, already has a nice performance improvement even at stock speeds of Q6600 ... I mean whats stopping most future games that support it from following suit?
Same here, this is being asked across many boards atm.From what I gather everybody has a different opinion , heres a few variations:1) Quad Core is pointless because games wont use it before the TRUE quads are out1 Counter ) Penryn only has 4 more MB L Cache , its not a big increase over Qseries (but overclocks better, uses less watt), TRUE NATIVE doesnt come out until 2009. (Basically not worth the wait)2) EXX50 (2.6+) is better, because higher clock speed will be more important.2 Counter ) The difference between say 2.4 GHZ Quad and 3.0 GHZ is not that big - around 5-6-8-9-10 FPS difference in SINGLE THREADED %26 2-core only , Quad core will be more future proof for those games (which are coming Q4 and 2008) will have more optimization for Quad Cores)3) 2 Core higher clockspeed is better now for CURRENT games (which is true).3 Counter ) But most games now dont even need a Duo Core at all to max (Including STALKER) , Crysis only needs E6600 for Ultra High (Confirmed by Crytek CEO) so why have have higher speed Duo Core, whena Quad Core will already max CURRENT games anyway (But with slightly slower loading times).I dont know, some people thing ''Quad is for bragging rights, all flash no show'' or ''High clocked 2 Cores is just for GHZ whores''.Its all a gamble, personally I'm leaning towards Quad Core, I'm not an Frame-rate or Overclocker junkie, I jsut want some future proof hardware , I dont find Penryn (6 months off) worth the wait, I could get a Q6600 now , leave it at stock or slightly O/C it , and save that future penryn money towards the Nvidia 9800 series which would overall give a much bigger improvement in games.No doubt some people will correct me on this ... I dont mind, I cant predict the future , but logically 4 cores > 2 no matter how you look at it, also 8 MB Cache > 4 MB L Cachentel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor E6700 (2.66GHz) or Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad pro
Thanks for the input.
it depends if you're doing a lot of video and sound editing, photoshoping, endoding, decodingor otherapplication that utilizes quad core to get the task done faster. if you're only doing gaming and nothing else, just gete6600. but then again, the price difference between e6600 and q6600 is not that muchafterJuly.
[QUOTE=''SDxSnOOpZ'']it depends if you're doing a lot of video and sound editing, photoshoping, endoding, decodingor otherapplication that utilizes quad core to get the task done faster. if you're only doing gaming and nothing else, just gete6600. but then again, the price difference between e6600 and q6600 is not that muchafterJuly.[/QUOTE]Indeed, E6600 would definatly be enough for along while, but since there isnt a massive price gap I'm not so sure it would be a wise choice, I mean check this out:
Budget $3500 help me build my rig
Ok I will be definetly buying a new computer in the 2nd week of August :)
I was on here last month asking for recommended systems and I will be buying all things needed 1st-2nd week of august SO what computer would you recommend with $3,500 ? Im looking to go all out as i will have enough money to upgrade every year if need be.
So can you tell me what rig you would build with that budget all help suggestions and comments will be taken on board as im 3 weeks away from buying this :) Budget $3500 help me build my rig
So you need a monitor, speakers, OS, keyboard %26 mouse along with the PC itself?Budget $3500 help me build my rig
yeah the whole lot apart from a Monitor which I already have :)
What size monitor do you have?
22'' Widescreen
3500 is kinda overkill especially if your not getting a huge monitor.
Here you go.[url]http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7527187[/url]Although I don't see the point of making a build 1 month before buying, since prices will change and new things will possibly come out that offer a better bang for the buck.
[QUOTE=''Hiryuu_'']Here you go.[url]http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7527187[/url]Although I don't see the point of making a build 1 month before buying, since prices will change and new things will possibly come out that offer a better bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]its because I like to see what system people build if they had the money and various opinions etc help my decisions thanks for building a system from the ground up :) appreciate it
You're in England right?Prices are pretty high over here so dont expect to get as much for the money! But I suppose if you have such a great budget it doesnt matter that much...
[QUOTE=''skinnypete91'']You're in England right?Prices are pretty high over here so dont expect to get as much for the money! But I suppose if you have such a great budget it doesnt matter that much...[/QUOTE]Yes I am in the UK but i can buy my parts from the USA as i have family there :)
How about giving me half...or buy that same monitors and make it 44''!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how about NO :P :) i think 22'' is enough im only 2ft away from my screen so it will be finei just want every other part of my system to be a bit over the top :p
You should ask what to buy JUST before you go and pay for it (as Hiryuu said, new stuff at better prices will probably come out).1. Are you looking for a CrossFire/SLi rig (even though it's overkill for a 22'')
2. How long after this do you think you'll be upgrading/buying again?
3. Do you have any brand preferences?
4. Do you want to gamble with Vista?
[QUOTE=''Wesker776'']You should ask what to buy JUST before you go and pay for it (as Hiryuu said, new stuff at better prices will probably come out).1. Are you looking for a CrossFire/SLi rig (even though it's overkill for a 22'')
2. How long after this do you think you'll be upgrading/buying again?
3. Do you have any brand preferences?
4. Do you want to gamble with Vista?[/QUOTE]SLI i am not looking for atm.. i will probably do this 6 months time etc when i will buy 2 killer cards... for the timei will upgrade 6-12 months after i buy this system but probably only the Graphics Cards... or cpu etc depending how much the tehcnology has improved by then...no.3 no i dont as i really dont know too much about pc's but I want an Intel CPU and an Nvidia graphics card :)yes i will gamble with vista as i will have to go that route eventually :)
come on people help me :) please
Help you with what?
Intel just came up with the qx6850, but I'm not sure if there's anywhere you can buy it just yet. It'll probably be $1k.dermatologist
I was on here last month asking for recommended systems and I will be buying all things needed 1st-2nd week of august SO what computer would you recommend with $3,500 ? Im looking to go all out as i will have enough money to upgrade every year if need be.
So can you tell me what rig you would build with that budget all help suggestions and comments will be taken on board as im 3 weeks away from buying this :) Budget $3500 help me build my rig
So you need a monitor, speakers, OS, keyboard %26 mouse along with the PC itself?Budget $3500 help me build my rig
yeah the whole lot apart from a Monitor which I already have :)
What size monitor do you have?
22'' Widescreen
3500 is kinda overkill especially if your not getting a huge monitor.
Here you go.[url]http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7527187[/url]Although I don't see the point of making a build 1 month before buying, since prices will change and new things will possibly come out that offer a better bang for the buck.
[QUOTE=''Hiryuu_'']Here you go.[url]http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7527187[/url]Although I don't see the point of making a build 1 month before buying, since prices will change and new things will possibly come out that offer a better bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]its because I like to see what system people build if they had the money and various opinions etc help my decisions thanks for building a system from the ground up :) appreciate it
You're in England right?Prices are pretty high over here so dont expect to get as much for the money! But I suppose if you have such a great budget it doesnt matter that much...
[QUOTE=''skinnypete91'']You're in England right?Prices are pretty high over here so dont expect to get as much for the money! But I suppose if you have such a great budget it doesnt matter that much...[/QUOTE]Yes I am in the UK but i can buy my parts from the USA as i have family there :)
How about giving me half...or buy that same monitors and make it 44''!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how about NO :P :) i think 22'' is enough im only 2ft away from my screen so it will be finei just want every other part of my system to be a bit over the top :p
You should ask what to buy JUST before you go and pay for it (as Hiryuu said, new stuff at better prices will probably come out).1. Are you looking for a CrossFire/SLi rig (even though it's overkill for a 22'')
2. How long after this do you think you'll be upgrading/buying again?
3. Do you have any brand preferences?
4. Do you want to gamble with Vista?
[QUOTE=''Wesker776'']You should ask what to buy JUST before you go and pay for it (as Hiryuu said, new stuff at better prices will probably come out).1. Are you looking for a CrossFire/SLi rig (even though it's overkill for a 22'')
2. How long after this do you think you'll be upgrading/buying again?
3. Do you have any brand preferences?
4. Do you want to gamble with Vista?[/QUOTE]SLI i am not looking for atm.. i will probably do this 6 months time etc when i will buy 2 killer cards... for the timei will upgrade 6-12 months after i buy this system but probably only the Graphics Cards... or cpu etc depending how much the tehcnology has improved by then...no.3 no i dont as i really dont know too much about pc's but I want an Intel CPU and an Nvidia graphics card :)yes i will gamble with vista as i will have to go that route eventually :)
come on people help me :) please
Help you with what?
Intel just came up with the qx6850, but I'm not sure if there's anywhere you can buy it just yet. It'll probably be $1k.
Whats your Vista raiting?
Mines is a 4.6 right now. What about you guys.Whats your Vista raiting?
5.5... Damn 3.5ghz CPU aint enough these days...Whats your Vista raiting?
4.3 My processor suks
5.3 my 3.0Ghz and 7600GT are holding me back
Graphics is 5.9 and overall is 5.1.
iam at 5.2 only because of my e6600 o well...
[QUOTE=''Dark_Dracos'']5.3 my 3.0Ghz and 7600GT are holding me back[/QUOTE]You got a dual core processor ?Regarding to your sig you have athlon 3700+ %26 your score cannot be 5.3
Processor: 3.9
Memory (RAM): 4.5
Graphics: 2.2
Gaming Graphics: 3.2
Primary Hard Disk: 5.4
5.3, 5.9 on graphics with my 8800, but the processor only gets a 5.1, ram a 5.3.
what is this you people are speaking of?
[QUOTE=''EJ902'']Processor: 3.9 Memory (RAM): 4.5 Graphics: 2.2 Gaming Graphics: 3.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.4[/QUOTE]R u using X200 %26 533MHz RAM ?
[QUOTE=''BobSacamento'']what is this you people are speaking of?[/QUOTE]If you are using Vista you can see a score (Right click on computer then properties)
[QUOTE=''lmcool47'']iam at 5.2 only because of my e6600 o well...[/QUOTE]I also have a E6600, but it's rating is at 4.7!! It's the lowest thing everything else is at 5.9!
[QUOTE=''LahiruD''][QUOTE=''EJ902'']Processor: 3.9 Memory (RAM): 4.5 Graphics: 2.2 Gaming Graphics: 3.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.4[/QUOTE]R u using X200 %26 533MHz RAM ?[/QUOTE]
Close with the graphics card, it's an X300, not so close with the RAM which is 1GB.
[QUOTE=''EJ902''][QUOTE=''LahiruD''][QUOTE=''EJ902'']Processor: 3.9 Memory (RAM): 4.5 Graphics: 2.2 Gaming Graphics: 3.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.4[/QUOTE]R u using X200 %26 533MHz RAM ?[/QUOTE] Close with the graphics card, it's an X300, not so close with the RAM which is 1GB.[/QUOTE]I asked you the speed. You are using 1GB DDR2 533MHz RAM I think 2 sticks (512MB x 2). If you put 4GB of 533MHz RAM you will still get 4.5 Score.Bcoz it used the speed of the RAM not the size.I'm also using DDR2 1GB 533MHz RAM %26 I used ATI X200
[QUOTE=''LahiruD'']I asked you the speed. You are using 1GB DDR2 533MHz RAM I think 2 sticks (512MB x 2). If you put 4GB of 533MHz RAM you will still get 4.5 Score.Bcoz it used the speed of the RAM not the size.I'm also using DDR2 1GB 533MHz RAM %26 I used ATI X200[/QUOTE]
Ah, sorry, I wasn't paying attention, I read MHz as MBs somehow.
I'm not certain but I believe it is around 533MHz.
i get a 5.5 with amd x2 5200 @ 3.12ghz everything els scores 5.9 except hardisk speed which scored 5.8
are these scores even credible? What do they mean? Is the number out of something?
all scores are out of 5.9 which is best you can get, but i think microsoft is going to increase scale as computers get better. its really just more of a guide line for stupid people. instead of saying you need a certain cpu speed and graphics card, software will just say you need a system score of 3.5 min and recommended score of 4.0.
Heres mine, kind of sucks.duo6600 2.4ghz///8800gts640///2g ram 800![]()
5.5... Damn 3.5ghz CPU aint enough these days...Whats your Vista raiting?
4.3 My processor suks
5.3 my 3.0Ghz and 7600GT are holding me back
Graphics is 5.9 and overall is 5.1.
iam at 5.2 only because of my e6600 o well...
[QUOTE=''Dark_Dracos'']5.3 my 3.0Ghz and 7600GT are holding me back[/QUOTE]You got a dual core processor ?Regarding to your sig you have athlon 3700+ %26 your score cannot be 5.3
Processor: 3.9
Memory (RAM): 4.5
Graphics: 2.2
Gaming Graphics: 3.2
Primary Hard Disk: 5.4
5.3, 5.9 on graphics with my 8800, but the processor only gets a 5.1, ram a 5.3.
what is this you people are speaking of?
[QUOTE=''EJ902'']Processor: 3.9 Memory (RAM): 4.5 Graphics: 2.2 Gaming Graphics: 3.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.4[/QUOTE]R u using X200 %26 533MHz RAM ?
[QUOTE=''BobSacamento'']what is this you people are speaking of?[/QUOTE]If you are using Vista you can see a score (Right click on computer then properties)
[QUOTE=''lmcool47'']iam at 5.2 only because of my e6600 o well...[/QUOTE]I also have a E6600, but it's rating is at 4.7!! It's the lowest thing everything else is at 5.9!
[QUOTE=''LahiruD''][QUOTE=''EJ902'']Processor: 3.9 Memory (RAM): 4.5 Graphics: 2.2 Gaming Graphics: 3.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.4[/QUOTE]R u using X200 %26 533MHz RAM ?[/QUOTE]
Close with the graphics card, it's an X300, not so close with the RAM which is 1GB.
[QUOTE=''EJ902''][QUOTE=''LahiruD''][QUOTE=''EJ902'']Processor: 3.9 Memory (RAM): 4.5 Graphics: 2.2 Gaming Graphics: 3.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.4[/QUOTE]R u using X200 %26 533MHz RAM ?[/QUOTE] Close with the graphics card, it's an X300, not so close with the RAM which is 1GB.[/QUOTE]I asked you the speed. You are using 1GB DDR2 533MHz RAM I think 2 sticks (512MB x 2). If you put 4GB of 533MHz RAM you will still get 4.5 Score.Bcoz it used the speed of the RAM not the size.I'm also using DDR2 1GB 533MHz RAM %26 I used ATI X200
[QUOTE=''LahiruD'']I asked you the speed. You are using 1GB DDR2 533MHz RAM I think 2 sticks (512MB x 2). If you put 4GB of 533MHz RAM you will still get 4.5 Score.Bcoz it used the speed of the RAM not the size.I'm also using DDR2 1GB 533MHz RAM %26 I used ATI X200[/QUOTE]
Ah, sorry, I wasn't paying attention, I read MHz as MBs somehow.
I'm not certain but I believe it is around 533MHz.
i get a 5.5 with amd x2 5200 @ 3.12ghz everything els scores 5.9 except hardisk speed which scored 5.8
are these scores even credible? What do they mean? Is the number out of something?
all scores are out of 5.9 which is best you can get, but i think microsoft is going to increase scale as computers get better. its really just more of a guide line for stupid people. instead of saying you need a certain cpu speed and graphics card, software will just say you need a system score of 3.5 min and recommended score of 4.0.
Heres mine, kind of sucks.duo6600 2.4ghz///8800gts640///2g ram 800
How is my PC build?
Should i get a4GB or 2GBCorsair XMS2 6400@800MHz or stick with this one?INTEL Core 2 Duo Q6600 Quad-Core, 2.4GHzULTRA PRODUCTS ChillTec Thermal Electric CPU CoolereVGA, nForce 680i SLI 775 A1, LGA775, nForce 680i SLI, 1333MHz FSBKINGSTON, 2GB (2 x 1GB) HyperX PC2-9600 DDR2 1200MHz CL5 (5-5-5-15) SDRAM 240-pin DIMM, Non-ECC, w/ Heat Spreader eVGA, e-GeForce 8800 GTX 621MHz, 768MB Sound Blaster?X-FiTM XtremeGamerWESTERN DIGITAL, 400GB WD CaviarTHERMALTAKE, Armor Black Full-Tower Case w/ Window %26 25cm Fan, EATX, No PSU THERMALTAKE, Toughpower 850W Power SupplyHow is my PC build?
Corsair is not better tha Kingston so remain with it.That rig is great. I will not change anythingHow is my PC build?
What Operating System are you planning to use?
[QUOTE=''wklzip'']What Operating System are you planning to use?[/QUOTE]2Gb is enough for both
im planning to use Vista home premium 32-bit. Thanks guys
Awesome list, but I'd strongly suggest checking out Thermaltake's V1 instead of that expensive Ultra ChillTec. V1 peforms almost near it with cost way less than the Ultra's...[url]http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=662%26p=3[/url]Stick with the Kingston you got on that list.
Corsair is not better tha Kingston so remain with it.That rig is great. I will not change anythingHow is my PC build?
What Operating System are you planning to use?
[QUOTE=''wklzip'']What Operating System are you planning to use?[/QUOTE]2Gb is enough for both
im planning to use Vista home premium 32-bit. Thanks guys
Awesome list, but I'd strongly suggest checking out Thermaltake's V1 instead of that expensive Ultra ChillTec. V1 peforms almost near it with cost way less than the Ultra's...[url]http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=662%26p=3[/url]Stick with the Kingston you got on that list.
the best processor, mobo, case/cooling, psu
for a total of$2000 or less?i have the other parts alreadythe best processor, mobo, case/cooling, psu
need help?!the best processor, mobo, case/cooling, psu
$2000 for those components? Here would be my personal list...Lian Li's PC-V2000B
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112062[/url]Thermaltake's Toughpower 1200W
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153054[/url]Intel QX6700
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115011[/url]Gigabyte's GA-P35-DQ6
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128046[/url] Watercooling Components (Copied off of HardForum's sticky):
Maze4, 1/2'', Lucite top - $34.95
Hydor L25, 185GPH - $37.95
The Heater Core with 1 fan shroud - $42.99
ClearFlex 60, 10 ft - 10 x $1.25 - 20% = $10.00
Plastic clamps - 8 x 0.75 = $6.00
T-fitting - $1.75
Evercool Chrome Aluminum Fan 120mm - $11.95
4oz Water Wetter - $3.50
need help?!the best processor, mobo, case/cooling, psu
$2000 for those components? Here would be my personal list...Lian Li's PC-V2000B
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112062[/url]Thermaltake's Toughpower 1200W
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153054[/url]Intel QX6700
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115011[/url]Gigabyte's GA-P35-DQ6
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128046[/url] Watercooling Components (Copied off of HardForum's sticky):
Maze4, 1/2'', Lucite top - $34.95
Hydor L25, 185GPH - $37.95
The Heater Core with 1 fan shroud - $42.99
ClearFlex 60, 10 ft - 10 x $1.25 - 20% = $10.00
Plastic clamps - 8 x 0.75 = $6.00
T-fitting - $1.75
Evercool Chrome Aluminum Fan 120mm - $11.95
4oz Water Wetter - $3.50
what sorta range do you get with a wireless router?
does it depend on whether its a 802.11a,b or g signal?what is the average distance usually?thankswhat sorta range do you get with a wireless router?
802.11b/g can typically operate up to 150 feet indoors and 300 feet out doors.802.11a isn't around much more, and they operate a bit shorter than b/g.However, the operation ranges largely depends on the layout of the building you're trying to deploy at.
802.11b/g can typically operate up to 150 feet indoors and 300 feet out doors.802.11a isn't around much more, and they operate a bit shorter than b/g.However, the operation ranges largely depends on the layout of the building you're trying to deploy at.
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